tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post994510408372459422..comments2023-09-26T20:17:48.872+10:00Comments on Saipan Saipanuvian Speaks: Sour Grapes for Tuesday, June 3rd., 2008Bruce A. Batemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03804747424525560858noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post-69481485611650004392008-06-12T15:48:00.000+10:002008-06-12T15:48:00.000+10:00Yes, Angelo, I understand plate tectonics. The th...Yes, Angelo, I understand plate tectonics. The three islands proposed are on the uplift plate, however, and not part of the trench.<BR/><BR/>Yes, you are doing those things, although without much input, simply a review of work already accomplished. Even that is okay as long as the most important issue, formal designation, is done in the proper order. Map, redraw, propose rules, restructure same, negotiate the large and small details, get concurrence from all affected parties, THEN designate, not before. <BR/><BR/>Are we still on the same page? Is this what you are trying to do? Or is the game plan to designate and then hope for the best we can make out of a done deal? I am on board for the former; I am solidly opposed to the latter.Bruce A. Batemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03804747424525560858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post-29673202551527713682008-06-12T15:31:00.000+10:002008-06-12T15:31:00.000+10:00Do you remember the part of the presentation about...Do you remember the part of the presentation about two techtonic plates, with the Pacific plate slipping underneath the Philippine plate? That's what makes the area spectacular. A 20 miles strip doesn't include all that "stuff."<BR/><BR/>Aren't we doing what you're suggesting? We've drawn it and named it (although the name will come later), now we're working on that other stuff. Right?Angelo Villagomezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00970383305205702533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post-52031646224249457162008-06-11T16:11:00.000+10:002008-06-11T16:11:00.000+10:00Maybe that would be bigger, maybe smaller. 700 mi...Maybe that would be bigger, maybe smaller. 700 miles long and 20 miles wide = 14,000 sq mi. and it takes in most of the Trench. That is about 12% the size of the one you drew and it contains no land or seamounts.<BR/><BR/>Why not draw it, name it, negotiate the big items and the small details, get everyone's approval, THEN designate. Not before. To do otherwise just begs to get us the short side of the stick.Bruce A. Batemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03804747424525560858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post-2699625247446475782008-06-11T00:24:00.000+10:002008-06-11T00:24:00.000+10:00Make the Monument bigger? Why not.The naming thin...Make the Monument bigger? Why not.<BR/><BR/>The naming thing is a moot point. A culturally appropriate name will be chosen after designation.<BR/><BR/>The area encompasses about 1/3 of the Mariana Trench, a globally recognized icon, so I like that name.Angelo Villagomezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00970383305205702533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post-29693174849510841732008-06-06T17:40:00.000+10:002008-06-06T17:40:00.000+10:00Hmmmmmmmm, well you've certainly picked the right ...Hmmmmmmmm, well you've certainly picked the right President for a "no brainer" monument. <BR/><BR/>As an aside, what does Cinta think about the US militay designs on her 'home island' of Pagan? They want it for training, and have a fair amount of leverage. Will she cave on that in order to get a MTMonument?<BR/><BR/>What do you think of my "J" shaped monument idea that includes the majority of the actual Marianas Trench?Bruce A. Batemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03804747424525560858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post-51331020234902598582008-06-06T16:54:00.000+10:002008-06-06T16:54:00.000+10:00It was Cinta Kaipat and me. When presented with t...It was Cinta Kaipat and me. When presented with the concept, we figured the area was already protected, the gap between those three islands and the other eleven is very large, and people rarely go there, so it would be a "no-brainer."Angelo Villagomezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00970383305205702533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post-8222213795940017992008-06-06T09:16:00.000+10:002008-06-06T09:16:00.000+10:00You are too modest, Angelo. I didn't know you dre...You are too modest, Angelo. I didn't know you drew the lines and I don't think many others do either.<BR/><BR/>Was there a meeting of concerned folks who came to an agreement about that proposed site...or was it an individual effort?Bruce A. Batemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03804747424525560858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6089785680144928412.post-50945408673777761842008-06-05T07:13:00.000+10:002008-06-05T07:13:00.000+10:00Bruce, I drew the lines. Last time I checked my f...Bruce, I drew the lines. Last time I checked my father's name was on our Constitution. I think that qualifies this as a local proposal with local input.Angelo Villagomezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00970383305205702533noreply@blogger.com